Running rough/stalling, after replacing MAFS and new gas engine

DanThorne

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Make
Toyota
Model
Prius gen 3
Year
2010
Miles
260k
Engine
Hybrid + 2ZR 1.8L 4 cylinder ICE
Hi everyone, newbie here just joining the forum. This car's been pretty reliable. It's got some highway miles, but I'm not crazy about a new car until prices return to normal. I just replaced the gas engine this week at Gasket Masters (the old motor was burning oil badly, common with this Gen 3). A little after I picked it up on my long drive home, I noticed it started running rough & showing codes P3190 and P0101. I have a call into the shop & waiting for their feedback. They installed a long block so not likely anything like PCV or EGR, and those codes didn't appear. Meanwhile, today I replaced the MAFS with a new Denso, replaced the air filter, & reset all the codes. It ran alright for a bit. Soon after the 2 codes popped back up. The motor got sluggish, nearly stalling out, & makes a loud air whistle when the engine is under a load (I tried not to push it that hard). It's perplexing. I'm wondering if anyone's seen this before, and what the chances are that I got a bad MAFS from Autozone, or if there's something else going on that might be the root cause.
 

billr

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Whistles always make me suspect a vacuum leak, but I urge you to quit throwing parts at it or fussing with it in any way until the shop that changed the engine has chance to make this right. Most likely is that something did not get reinstalled correctly, or got damaged during the engine change. There are so many things that get disturbed during an engine change that having something not go back right is not all that unusual. I would not consider the shop to be poor if they made such a mistake. However, if they won't step up right away and fix it, then they are flaky and you either have to get a different shop involved or get into some serious DIY trouble-shooting.
 

DanThorne

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Thanks for the feedback and quick response, Bill. Was trying to tackle what I thought might be something simple before a long trip back into the shop
 
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billr

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OK, I understand. Look around for a loose hose end dangling; that doesn't cost anything.

If you are adventuresome, you could try loading the engine while standing still and listening for the whistle. Holding the service brake on hard should allow you load the engine pretty well. Obviously, you need somebody you really trust to jam their foot on the brake and give it throttle while you are under the hood listening for the whistle!

In my earlier years, I would take the hood off and ride sitting on top of the engine when trying to track down problems that only showed up at load or vehicle speed...
 

grcauto

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Hi everyone, newbie here just joining the forum. This car's been pretty reliable. It's got some highway miles, but I'm not crazy about a new car until prices return to normal. I just replaced the gas engine this week at Gasket Masters (the old motor was burning oil badly, common with this Gen 3). A little after I picked it up on my long drive home, I noticed it started running rough & showing codes P3190 and P0101. I have a call into the shop & waiting for their feedback. They installed a long block so not likely anything like PCV or EGR, and those codes didn't appear. Meanwhile, today I replaced the MAFS with a new Denso, replaced the air filter, & reset all the codes. It ran alright for a bit. Soon after the 2 codes popped back up. The motor got sluggish, nearly stalling out, & makes a loud air whistle when the engine is under a load (I tried not to push it that hard). It's perplexing. I'm wondering if anyone's seen this before, and what the chances are that I got a bad MAFS from Autozone, or if there's something else going on that might be the root cause.
I second waiting on the rebuilders.
 

DanThorne

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Thanks for your feedback, guys. I'm working to get it back up to the shop and will follow back up with the outcome. Meanwhile one other issue that was resolved was replacing the failed HV battery pack from Hybrid2Go. The shop is going to honor the warranty and make it right.

Even with those 2 major replacements it's still far cheaper than new car prices @ $10k over MSRP. Has anyone else shopped for a new car this year? Surprisingly, neither Honda, Toyota, nor Hyundai budged on removing the dealer add ons, and would only negotiate them down slightly. The only one priced closest to MSRP was Nissan. I'm talking base model non-hybrid cars. It's nuts. Gone are the days of negotiating a markup from dealer invoice. They're all moving so few cars that they're basically in survival mode. Probably be this way until economy changes. I can't wait to get this old car cleaned up & back on the road again.
 
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