Very rusty fuel injectors

nickb2

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My farthest was nunavut and matimakosh and shefferville. Some wheres of the 54 ieme paralelé
 

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Arizona is the most rust free state, relative humidity is next to zero, but you have to have shades on your windows, that red hot sun will fade and fry your interior.

Sometimes you just can't win.

What the auto companies want you to do is to trade up when your warranty runs out, many auto manufacturers reduce the power train warranty from 100K miles down to 60K.

Only thing the EPA wants are vehicles easier to recycle. Using different grades of plastic is out, makes recycling eaxier using the same grade for door panels and bumpers. Plastic bumpers? Remember the 5 mph bumper?

SAE Engineering had a very interesting article on this industry studying food products packaging for better longevity.
Take a throwaway pop of beer can lying in a salt covered ditch for ten years, still looks like brand new. Our vehicles were never intended to be throwaway, but they sure are.

Should put the FDA in charge of automotive production.
 

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With crunch in 2008 did you notice vehicle replacement parts really skyrocketed, trying to make it cheaper to purchase a new vehicle then repair an older one. Bill Clinton did his share by insisting the IRS value cores at retail prices as inventory putting over 7000 US rebuilders out of business. The Chinese got a lot of this business, but their products are crap.

Computer and cell phone companies stay in business by obsoleting their software about every four years. No improvements, just changes.

Some laws are in favor of the people, if your 57 Chevy does not have safety belts or air bags, you don't have to add them and even your kids in some states can ride in the front seats. Ha, another problem, one country, 50 states, 50 different sets of laws.

For automotive emission laws, California had the strictest laws, and auto manufacturers had to make special vehicles for them. But is you were a tourist with money to spend in California, more than welcome to bring in your smog producing vehicle in as long as you were spending your money in that state.

For the most part, all new vehicles today are made to California standards. Some European vehicle manufacturers have stricter emission laws, than we do, but are not welcomed to be imported into this country because they don't meet the EPA standards. What, your vehicle is emitting LESS hydrocarbons than our vehicles? You are not welcome!
 

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96eb96 said:


You are very lucky then. Here trucks can actually lose weight and increase their MPG over rust.


Hi 96 eb 96


Actually those rust holes produce wind eddy currents that drastically increase aerodynamic drag decreasing fuel economy.

Wow, the can save about 7 pounds or so by giving us a compact spare, but if you have to use it, first off, your vehicle is way out of balance having one corner so much lower than the other three, only good for 50 miles, then your law required TPMS, ABS, and traction control don't work. This is how hypocritical our law makers are. Really too stupid to make any laws.

Who heads the EPA and DOT? People that helped the president get elected is the only requirement.
 

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Arizona is the most rust free state, relative humidity is next to zero, but you have to have shades on your windows, that red hot sun will fade and fry your interior.

Sometimes you just can't win.

What the auto companies want you to do is to trade up when your warranty runs out, many auto manufacturers reduce the power train warranty from 100K miles down to 60K.

Only thing the EPA wants are vehicles easier to recycle. Using different grades of plastic is out, makes recycling eaxier using the same grade for door panels and bumpers. Plastic bumpers? Remember the 5 mph bumper?

SAE Engineering had a very interesting article on this industry studying food products packaging for better longevity.
Take a throwaway pop of beer can lying in a salt covered ditch for ten years, still looks like brand new. Our vehicles were never intended to be throwaway, but they sure are.

Should put the FDA in charge of automotive production.
Beer cans are aluminum, no? Now Ford makes truck bodies out of that.
The frames are still steel. I read somewhere that high strength steel rusts easy.
 

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Do you recall so called chromium bumpers, but adding nickel to steel makes it rust resistant, adding chromium to that nickel steel makes it stainless steel, but don't have to go that far for painted sheet metal or frames, just adding 0.5% nickel to that steel will make it rust resistant.

WWII got rid of a millions of vehicles for steel, but those that were hidden in a field someplace while loaded with surface rust, had no rust through like todays crap.

Don't make em like dey use to. Many cars were 16 gauge, more like 22 today.
 

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Do you recall so called chromium bumpers, but adding nickel to steel makes it rust resistant, adding chromium to that nickel steel makes it stainless steel, but don't have to go that far for painted sheet metal or frames, just adding 0.5% nickel to that steel will make it rust resistant.

WWII got rid of a millions of vehicles for steel, but those that were hidden in a field someplace while loaded with surface rust, had no rust through like todays crap.

Don't make em like dey use to. Many cars were 16 gauge, more like 22 today.
If you ran GM or Ford would you want that though? Customers keeping trucks 20 years or even forever instead of buying a new one even 5 years down the line?
 

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Kept my 92 DeVille for 18 years, was my highway car, and if any snow on the ground with road salt, it stayed in the garage. Body panels were like new, but the three fuel lines, four ABS lines, and two AT coolant lines were a pile of rust and I had to replace all of them. Probably why this body of mine is falling apart.

See a lot of Ford, GM, and even Toyota pickups around here, that are a pile of rusts. Put a large Ford, GMC, or Chevrolet stamped in name plate on the tailgate, sure not very good advertisement for them.
 
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