Oil in the coolant and coolant in the oil

wolfsmane

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First, don't bash me for the amount of time that has past. The shoulder surgery is healing a lot slower than it should have and I have just got to the point of getting to tearing down this engine.

I got the intake out and I don't see anything like in this picture. If I don't see this, does that mean that it's the head gasket?

Also, I could have swore that I flushed the dexcool out of this and refilled with green, but it looks like I might be wrong.

I don't know exactly how an engine with this age/miles should look, but it looks like garbage in there. I will attach some pictures.

BTW - the area on the gasket where it is broke is my fault when taking it out.
 

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first, who are we to bash you. Shyte, you even took the time to post back. Very cool.

Ok, a few questions here. Before you ripped off the lower, how was the engine sounding. Any rod or crank knock?

If not, probably salvageable with two treatments of risolene or similar.

And if you tore it down to there, your shoulder seems to be doing better. Right on.

these 3.8s are nearly indestructible.

After two treatments and a few oil filters later, if that engine starts knocking, then we will talk.

yeah, that some weird gunk man. enough even to scare me, and trust me, I dont scare easy.

pic #3, wowser.

In case you dont know what risolene is, valvolen has a similar crank case cleaner.

here are a few links, after, now, what have you got to loose?


apart for maybe a few bucks in gaskets, dont forget, go felpro.

links below and some random videoes on how to either do it or wrong.

hi hi.

you will need two of these.

 

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so my next hint, is try to find a guy who has this kit, give it a try.

Btw, I am not ever paid for anything I link to here, I just post what works for me.

If a pro gdi kit dont un gum that, yeah, GRC is right, engine needs a very attentive rebuild, and is this 3.8l worth it. If it was a 5.0l, we would have to report to my new project.

 

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As usual, I overkill every thing, but moly works great also. but @ 24bucks per bottle, you gonna need a bone in the stuff.

this is your golden mechanic in a bottle right here.

If this dont work, anyway check it out. I love this stuff, but its not readily available at you local canadian tire.

 

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so, if you took the time to check the awesome eric guy, key word, slowly, pull pan check oil pick up, that is key. Eric talks real fast, but I hit key words. If the engine is already shot, give it a try. If not TRUST GRC!!!
 

nickb2

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BTW, if you want a 5.0l dont ask me.

jokes aside, I love this site.

And dont you ever dare think we will bash you for posting late, luv the pics. Showed respect in very many ways. kudoos and thank you for being that guy.
 

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No knocking that I know of. 1st thing that I'd like your opinion on, looking at those intake gaskets, do you think that is where the water/oil mixing came from or is it actually a head gasket that went bad? +++1 picture shows the passenger side front of the intake gasket being cracked away....I did that when taking it out of the car+++ I am not knowledgeable enough to know if I need head gasket replacement.+++
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I already have 6 gallons of oil and filters that I was going to run through the engine when I got it back together. Found a cheap conventional oil to use to clean out any water and gunk and when I think that it is clean enough, then I will do a last oil change with a quality brand.
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Is risolene the same as the rislone that I have pictured? I have heard of running kerosene mixed in the oil to clean out gunk, is that the same thing? Or just use the Valvoline in the video?
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Ok, all of that gunk in the picture, should I try to spray it or flush it with brake cleaner or degreaser and scrub with a nylon brush to break it up and then drop the oil pan and flush it out good? Or just slap some gaskets in there and run engine flush through it when it is running?
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My wife asked me, since water already got in places it wasn't supposed to be, why can't I use a pressure washer to wash away all of the gunk. LOL
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I have watched Eric the car guy before! I have not watched that video until you pointed it out, lol
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Hope you are doing well!
 

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wolfsmane

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When I do get it back together and run it for the 1st time, how long should I run it before changing the oil? Example - like run it for 5 minutes to collect whatever water may have been left in there, then do an oil and filter change? Then again, for the 2nd time, run it longer....but how much longer?

BTW - I appreciate everything that you and the other mechanics have been helping me with and the time away from your family and personal life is greatly appreciated!
 

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Myself I don't see evidence that the intake is the problem. I would continue to remove the heads. Do both sides.
 

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I would run it at about 2000rpm, with no load, until the engine is fully heated (fan comes on). Then, pull off the filter and drain the oil from the filter into a glass jar to inspect visually. If the filter doesn't look cloudy, I would re-install the filter and drive it for 500 miles before changing oil/filter again.
 
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